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Wednesday, February 23, 2011

Tiny But Loud

This wasn't what I was originally going to blog about today. I was just over at "DC Women Kicking Butt" and then at CBR, and I am filled with rage. LOUD rage.

The CBR has done an interview with Judd Winick, and got his thoughts about how Justice League: Generation Lost is going, and finishing up, and what the heck is happening with Jaime and so on and so forth. The so forth of course refers to his mind-boggling retcon of Ice's origin. And this is what he had to say.

"...there's a tiny but loud contingent of people on the web who didn't like that we
revamped her origin..."

The contempt in that sentence is simply dripping.

Well count me as one of the tiny but loud continent. Because I was VERY loud about it and I will CONTINUE to be very loud about it. It was a gawdawful revamp. There was and remains NO real reason to retcon her story. There was nothing WRONG with her story. Giving her a generic X-Men story is neither daring or original. There is also the tiny little problem that involves the whole friggin' Justice League since there was a whole story arc concerning her Ice Kingdom and family. But hey, he's Judd Winick! He can throw continuity out of the window if he wants to, because he's just so hip and happening. And can't be bothered to actually read up on the characters that he's writing.

Could someone enlighten me, as to HOW exactly Ice's new origin story has had ANY sort of bearing on the story being told? What was the point? And I'm not even going to go INTO how enraged I'll be if he does the unthinkable and actually kills off Jaime. Jaime is one of the very best new characters to come down the pike in a very very long time. Hell, Winick, while you're at it, why don't you kill off the Reyes as well? There's a sweet little girl just waiting to get whacked, and you're just the man for the job!

I should probably stop now. I'm getting awfully cranky. Maybe I'll go and get my new books and see what happened in JLI. But I'm not feeling particularly hopeful.


At 3:16 AM, Blogger James Ashelford said...

I was rather confused by the flashback scene with Jaime explaining the Reach and the Scarab to Paco and Brenda seeing as they were party to all those events long before the Reach showed up.

Also, Paco seems to have been very ill recently, having lost about thirty pounds of weight and half a foot of height.

At 5:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Grow up.

At 10:17 AM, Blogger James Ashelford said...

Aw, sweet. If I could pinch your cheeks and pat you on the head, I would.

Sadly, because of your self-conscious anonymity I'll just get on with my day, enjoy complaining as any true Englishman would (the sun never set on the British Empire because if it did someone would moan at it and it would come right back out again) and leave you to the bleak nihilistic hypocrisy of your own existence.

In the words of Churchill: "KBO."

Sally, my apologies for this exchange.

At 12:15 PM, Blogger SallyP said...

Oh James, you don't have to apologize to me at all. In fact I am impressed with your restraint.

And as for Anonymous...Bite me.

Yeah, I know, real mature. But dammit, I'm still feeling cranky.

At 3:38 PM, Blogger notintheface said...

Uh, Judd? That tiny but loud contingent is...damn near everybody. Your Ice revamp SUCKS!

It ticks me off that guys like Winick and Bendis are given so much carte blanche, but someone like the late Dwayne McDuffie got overruled at every turn.

At 3:39 PM, Blogger notintheface said...

Also, I second the "Bite me" to Anonymous.

At 5:28 PM, Blogger Erin S. said...

Yeah this section of the interview was filled with fail. Even if you ignore the "tiny but loud" comment the part where he says it works for the story baffles. How does it add more to this story than the original verison? You could have wrote Gavril with a tragic backstory and added more simply because he's not fleshed out that much.

At 6:34 PM, Blogger SallyP said...

Exactly! And I'm torn, because Gavril is actually quite a good character. And when he actually wants to, Winick can write well. It just doesn't seem as though he's all that invested in superheroes...or at least women characters.

I have yet to see how Tora's new origin has ANY bearing on the story.

At 7:17 PM, Blogger Erin S. said...

I liked Talia in Red Hood (although the last issue was a little weird to say the least) and I've enjoyed Power Girl. True, I think the PG stuff adds more to the story than the Ice origin and that's just tie in stuff.

At 8:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the trailer for the new animated film Green Lantern: Emerald Knights will lighten your mood Sally?


At 9:53 PM, Blogger LissBirds said...

Are you kidding me, Winick? ARGH.

I would blog about this but Sally you said it better than I ever could. Besides, if I complain, I'll be adding to the "loudness," apparently.

I'm writing a letter to DC. They said they read ALL their letters. Let's see if that's true.

Wonderful comeback, James! If only I were so eloquent.

At 10:15 PM, Blogger Your Obedient Serpent said...

You know, if they kill off Jaime, I'll probably just write off DC entirely for the foreseeable future. I'm a cranky old man, and I'm tired of seeing them toss out everything new and fresh in favor of a bunch of characters who couldn't hold down their own books 20 years ago

Frankly, I'm getting more fun out of my horribly fanficcy DC Adventures setting than I am out of the actual comics these days.

At 7:10 AM, Blogger Sea-of-Green said...

Be glad Winick isn't writing any of the Green Lantern titles!

At 11:10 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This will make you chuckle. I share the loud but tiny anger!


At 1:17 PM, Blogger Gary said...

And that "tiny but loud" comment makes me glad I never read an interview with Winick... and also that I am part of that loud contingent.

Oh, and Duncan? Very nice, sir!

At 2:26 PM, Blogger SallyP said...

Thank you Duncan!

At 9:08 AM, Blogger Saranga said...

add me to the tiny but loud contingent.

At 8:00 AM, Anonymous AE said...

One might say the 'tiny but loud' are Tora's FANS, Winick.


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